Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

04/04/2012 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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+= HB 289 LIQ. NAT. GAS STORAGE: TAX CREDIT/LEASE TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ HB 255 READING OR TYPING MESSAGE WHILE DRIVING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 255(JUD) Out of Committee
+ HB 294 POWER COST EQUALIZATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 365 AQUATIC INVASIVE SPECIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 212 PROVISIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE STICKER TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 190 PFD ALLOWABLE ABSENCE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSSHB 190(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 294                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
"An Act relating to the power cost equalization program."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-chair Fairclough MOVED to ADOPT  the CSHB 294 (FIN) 27-                                                                    
LS1108\D  Work  Draft  as  a  working  document  before  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED for purpose of discussion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JOE MICHEL,  STAFF, CO-CHAIR  STOLTZE explained  the changes                                                                    
in version  D. He stated that  version D added section  3 to                                                                    
the legislation.  Section 3  added conditional  language; if                                                                    
the billed passed it would  not take effect unless there was                                                                    
an appropriation  of $150 million,  or more, into  the Power                                                                    
Cost Equalization  fund (PCE). The appropriation  would need                                                                    
to occur during the 27th legislature.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW  his  objection.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION it was so ordered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EDGMON,  SPONSOR,  explained  that  PCE  was                                                                    
established in 1984 and provided  financial relief for rural                                                                    
consumers, up to 500 kilowatt  hours per month for those who                                                                    
were  eligible. He  related that  the formula  was based  on                                                                    
fuel  and  non-fuel  cost,  and  eligible  communities  were                                                                    
determined by  the Regulatory Commission of  Alaska. He said                                                                    
that the  program was  monitored by  monthly reports  to the                                                                    
Alaska   Energy   Authority    (AEA).   The   $400   million                                                                    
appropriation  granted  in  July  of  2011  raised  the  PCE                                                                    
endowment to $700 million. He  admitted that the legislation                                                                    
was major and had a  large fiscal note attached. He strongly                                                                    
believed that it  was the best way to  assist rural consumer                                                                    
with escalating fuel prices.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  detailed that  the bill  expanded the                                                                    
monthly cap form 500 kilowatt  hours to 600, and allowed for                                                                    
commercial uses  to be  brought back  into the  program with                                                                    
the limitation  of 600 kilowatt  hours, with an  overall use                                                                    
per month  of 2400  kilowatt hours. He  added that  the bill                                                                    
would  exempt   state  and   federal  facilities   and  non-                                                                    
residential consumers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze understood  that the  bill included  small                                                                    
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon   replied  in  the   affirmative.  He                                                                    
explained  that barber  shops, coffee  shops, "mom  and pop"                                                                    
type  businesses   would  benefit.   He  shared   that  most                                                                    
communities never  reached the  60 percent mark  of reaching                                                                    
the 500 kilowatt  cap. He stated that the  bill was designed                                                                    
to allow  for commercial entities in  smaller communities to                                                                    
have some  relief when  providing electricity  in an  era of                                                                    
very high cost.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze   noted  that  the  introduction   of  the                                                                    
legislation offered  an opportunity  to educate  the general                                                                    
public  on  traditional  kilowatt  per  hour  usage  in  the                                                                    
average home.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:35:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  described having  to barge  in diesel                                                                    
fuel to  rural communities;  communities with  fixed utility                                                                    
costs spread  over a  small consumer  base. He  relayed that                                                                    
these small communities paid electricity  rates 3 to 4 times                                                                    
the average rate in Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon   spoke  of  a  study   done  by  the                                                                    
Institute  of   Social  and  Economic  Research   which  had                                                                    
revealed  that  the program  was  in  limited use  in  rural                                                                    
areas, and  that the  communities could  utilize it  more if                                                                    
they could  keep on top  of the required paperwork.  He said                                                                    
the larger  users of  the program were  in the  northern and                                                                    
southeastern parts  of the state.  He noted that  the fiscal                                                                    
note was  for approximately  $20 million. He  estimated that                                                                    
this was on the high-end of the price range.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:39:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara spoke  in support of the  bill. He noted                                                                    
that  the  PCE  program  was  necessary,  but  stressed  the                                                                    
importance of  encouraging energy  efficiency in  the state.                                                                    
He hoped that  in the future a cost  savings component could                                                                    
be added to the program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon pointed out  to the committee that the                                                                    
state   had   invested   substantially   in   weatherization                                                                    
programs. The  program was  designed in such  a way  that if                                                                    
fuel costs went  down, so did the PCE benefit.  He said that                                                                    
in 2011,  the Renewable  Energy Grant Fund  Program provided                                                                    
approximately $6  million in energy  savings; most  of which                                                                    
could  be attributed  to two  projects:  the Gustavus  False                                                                    
Creek  Hydroelectric Project  and the  Pillar Mountain  Wind                                                                    
Project  in  Kodiak. He  added  that  there had  been  other                                                                    
turbine systems  in Western Alaska  that had  contributed to                                                                    
the overall  reduction of  PCE costs.  He stressed  that the                                                                    
report requirements were very stringent.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  queried   the  average  savings  per                                                                    
household using the 500 kilowatt formula.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon replied  that the  PCE program  saved                                                                    
participating utilities approximately 30 percent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VAL  ANGASAN,  BRISTOL  BAY HOUSING  AUTHORITY,  DILLINGHAM,                                                                    
(via   teleconference),   testified   in  support   of   the                                                                    
legislation.  He  shared that  the  high  cost of  fuel  had                                                                    
hindered grow  the opportunity in rural  Alaska. He revealed                                                                    
that in  the area milk  was $10 per  gallon, $6 for  gas. He                                                                    
said that  surplus income in  the area was  non-existent. He                                                                    
felt that the PCE program was critical in rural areas.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon interjected that  he had heard reports                                                                    
of gas being as high as $7.23 per gallon in Dillingham.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ROBBIE  GARRETT, SELF,  KAKE,  (via teleconference),  voiced                                                                    
support for the  legislation. He shared that  in rural areas                                                                    
the rates  were high,  especially when  the rate  fell under                                                                    
the  non-commercial  rate;  nearly  $.85  per  kilowatt.  He                                                                    
stated that  as a business  owner he did  not view PCE  as a                                                                    
subsidy in  perpetuity, but  rather temporary  assistance to                                                                    
help stabilize cost.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEERA  KOHLER, CEO,  ALASKA VILLAGE  ELECTRIC CO-OP  (AVEC),                                                                    
testified in favor of the  bill. She stated that AVEC served                                                                    
54 communities  in Alaska with electricity.  She stated that                                                                    
the  average residential  consumption  in Alaska's  villages                                                                    
was approximately  400 kilowatt  hours year round.  She said                                                                    
the average varied widely between  regions. She relayed that                                                                    
averages were higher in the  northwest because the water and                                                                    
sewer  systems in  the region  used electricity.  She opined                                                                    
that  winter was  a time  of hardship  in many  communities;                                                                    
using well above  the 500 kilowatt cap. She  said that homes                                                                    
in the rural areas ranged from  600 to 1200 square feet. She                                                                    
said that AVEC had  approximately 2800 commercial customers,                                                                    
half  of  which  would  be  eligible  under  the  bill.  She                                                                    
highlighted  that  AVEC  represented one-third  of  all  PCE                                                                    
users in Alaska,  and that consumption could  be expected to                                                                    
rise  35 to  40 percent  were the  legislation to  pass. She                                                                    
informed the  committee that  as of the  end of  March 2012,                                                                    
the balance of the PCE  Endowment fund was $780 million. She                                                                    
qualified that  the fund  had not been  that large  for very                                                                    
long;  $400  million had  recently  been  injected into  the                                                                    
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze queried when the  last big injection to the                                                                    
fund had occurred.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Kohler   explained   that  $100   million   from   the                                                                    
constitutional budget  reserve (CBR) had been  injected upon                                                                    
the  adoption  of the  fund  in  2000.  She added  that  $85                                                                    
million from the  Fordham Coal sale was  added several years                                                                    
later;  then in  2006, $187  million was  added by  Governor                                                                    
Murkowski.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:54:23 PM                                                                                                                    
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3:55:07 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas asked  if  Ms.  Kohler saw  an  end to  the                                                                    
problem  of   providing  affordable  electricity   to  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Kohler  explained   that   the   effective  rate   for                                                                    
residential consumers  for the first 500  kilowatt hours was                                                                    
approximately $.21  per kilowatt  hour. She said  that until                                                                    
the price of electricity was  at a reasonable level, $.10 to                                                                    
$.12 per  kilowatt, there would  never be  enough additional                                                                    
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  asked if,  in the  event  that the  state faced  a                                                                    
deficit due to declining oil  production, the PCE fund could                                                                    
be in danger.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler  replied that  the  fund  was predicated  on  an                                                                    
adequate revenue stream.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  stressed that oil  production needed  to be                                                                    
higher in order to fund  future energy programs and projects                                                                    
in the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  agreed. He  felt  that  the PCE  was                                                                    
expensive, but  necessary for rural  Alaska. He  opined that                                                                    
the  communities in  rural Alaska  were  shrinking. He  said                                                                    
that the  legislature needed to  consider what  rural Alaska                                                                    
should  look like  into the  future, with  the understanding                                                                    
that the sustainability of communities  was tied directly to                                                                    
energy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze  noted that  the  larger  urban areas  had                                                                    
voiced a majority of the support for PCE program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:59:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule relayed  that it  was an  anomaly when                                                                    
oil  went  over $100  per  barrel  mark.  He said  that  oil                                                                    
maintaining above $100 per barrel  was contributing the high                                                                    
cost of  energy. He  agreed that  a lot  of money  was being                                                                    
spent on  the issue, but  believed that the money  needed to                                                                    
be spent in order to deliver  energy to all parts of Alaska.                                                                    
He thought that the structure of  the PCE was a creative way                                                                    
to corral funds for energy relief.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  if   there  were  any  energy                                                                    
projects at work in rural Alaska that were lowing costs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler  replied  that  the   company  owned  more  wind                                                                    
turbines than any  other company in the  state. She asserted                                                                    
that AVEC had  been aggressive in the  pursuit of affordable                                                                    
energy. She said that the  village with the lowest fuel cost                                                                    
component in  rural Alaska was  Chevak at $.21  per kilowatt                                                                    
hour,  much  lower  than  average  fuel  cost  of  $.32  per                                                                    
kilowatt  hour. Fifty  percent of  the  kilowatt hour  sales                                                                    
were eligible for the PCE fund.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked if the  $.21 cents was the total                                                                    
cost or the fuel surcharge.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Kohler responded that it was only the fuel surcharge.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:02:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas wondered what would  happen to the PCE costs                                                                    
if the debt were retired.                                                                                                       
Ms. Kohler  said that  it would  have a  substantial effect.                                                                    
She revealed that  AVEC had taken $12  million in additional                                                                    
long-term  debt   in  2011.  The   money  was   invested  in                                                                    
communities and  was the  cash match  brought to  the Denali                                                                    
Commission and  the renewable energy fund  grants. The total                                                                    
debt  burden  for  AVEC   was  currently  approximately  $48                                                                    
million; the debt service was  $1.5 million per year; if the                                                                    
debt  were to  vanish a  $.6 to  $.7 drop  in cost  would be                                                                    
observed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas wondered what would  happen if the debt were                                                                    
retired, and kept from growing again.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kohler replied  that the  life of  a utility  plant was                                                                    
finite. She  said that  continual investment  was necessary.                                                                    
She relayed that  AVEC had been whittling away  at the debt,                                                                    
but that the cash match  the company was responsible for had                                                                    
risen in recent years.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas  asked how  many representatives  served the                                                                    
areas under AVEC.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler  replied that  between the  house and  the senate                                                                    
there were 9 or 10.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas  hypothesized  that   if  each  of  the  10                                                                    
lawmakers put in $2 million  for a capital budget request it                                                                    
would greatly benefit AVEC.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kohler agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon   reiterated  that  AVEC   served  54                                                                    
communities.  He turned  attention  to the  fiscal note.  He                                                                    
said  that the  $700 million  should pay  for what  the bill                                                                    
proposed to do in a 3 to 4 year period.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thomas CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  294  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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HB 255 Teen Texting Before Fatal Crash 2.10.12.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 NCSL Texting Law by State.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 NCSL Legisbrief Addressing Distracted Driving.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 Letter of Support - State Farm.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 Letter of Support - Anchorage Fire Department.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 AS 28.35.161.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 12.27.11 News Miner Editorial.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 12.22.11 KTUU article.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 12.9.11 ADN article fatal hit-and-run.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 1.10.12 Empire Opinion.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 1.26.11 Newsminer Head-on Crash.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB294 Support Letters.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB294 Endowment Projections.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 11 PCE_Report_Gov_Blue_ribbon_2-1-991.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 10 Leg Research 09 200.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 09 Leg Research 06 016.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 08 Leg Research 00 022.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 07 Leg Research 99 086.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 05 Existing PCE Statutes.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 294 - 03 PCE Endowment Existing Statutes.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
CSHB294 (ENE) Sponsor Statement (1).pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 294
HB 365 Support Letters.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365
HB 365 Sponsor Statement.docx HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365
HB 365 explanation of changes between versions.docx HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365
Dvex Presentation by UAS 1 23 12.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365
CSG Capitol Ideas feature article on Aquatic Invasive Species.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365
HB 255 Summary of Changes from HB 255 to CSHB 255(JUD).pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 255 Letter of Support - Alaska Association of Chiefs of Police.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB 212 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 212
HB 212 PowerPoint Jessica Luiken.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 212
HB 212 Explanation of Changes 04032012.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 212
HB255 06.25.09 Article - Texting And Driving Worse Than Drinking and Driving.docx HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 255
HB365 Amendment 1 Edgemon.pdf HFIN 4/4/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 365